Siouxsie Sioux and the Unrelenting Banshee Challenge a Creature

Siouxsie Sioux in a garden

Can one artist inspire more artists than most? Is trailblazer an understatement? And can her challenging of convention inspire a Banshee at a record store to confront a young man before he becomes a monstrous creature? If we are talking about Siouxsie Sioux and one of her fans, the answer is yes.

Siouxsie Sioux Breaks Convention

In the late 70’s the post punk scene in Europe saw a disruptive influence hit the stage. When it did, nothing would ever be the same in music again. Siouxsie Sioux and the Banshees, led by Siouxsie Sioux, would command stages and build fans while A & R men and others in the record industry would try to reduce them…and her.

Under her leadership they would not relent. The music was haunting and gritty. Her look and stage performance broke gender norms. A male dominated punk scene that was beginning to be a caricature filled with toxic men would get an infusion of a woman with a mind and a vision of her own.

Melancholy songs of love, loss, and isolation would change the face of punk and post punk. Goth music would rise into the consciousness of a broader audience as well. For 11 albums with the Banshees, 4 with The Creatures and 1 solo album, her music still haunts the airwaves, playlists, and record players across the world.

As far as inspiration? A few artists have been inspired by her unapologetic example.

Shadowtime

The shadow she cast over the industry inspired many acts. Some artists who claim Siouxsie Sioux as their inspiration for being are as follows.

PJ HarveySinéad O’ConnorCharli XCXFlorence + the Machine, Brody Dalle of The DistillersHayley Williams, Kathleen Hanna of Bikini KillWolf AliceChvrches, Gillian Gilbert of New Order, St. Vincent, Joy Division, The Cure, and Radiohead. What I have given you is not a comprehensive list. It is barely the tip of the iceberg.

To be able to have this kind of influence that crosses genres, genders, and generations takes more than black makeup, bondage inspired clothing, and a unique voice and sound. Her inspiration is a direct challenge to the music industry that does not understand artists and fans.

The source of the inspiration is her exemplary embodiment of the punk DIY ethos. The only way her vision was going to be heard was by eschewing conformity and gender roles while being fiercely independent and true to her vision.

Her influence is so vast that there are a multitude of peer reviewed papers ranging from sociology to women’s studies that cover her influence on culture.

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Siouxsie Sioux holding a microphone while performing in 1980

Siouxsie never identified as a feminist. She lived her life on her terms. But her and Joan Jett showcased that there was not a lack of women in rock and punk, there was a lack of representation. Their unrelenting sprits inspired a movement in the 90’s called the Riot Grrrls. It was not just music. It was self published zines, feminist theory, and a movement that would guide feminism into the third wave and open doors for women writers, journalists, and musicians.

I would meet a Riot Grrrl at a record store who was a Banshee that would challenge my views.

SideBar: Names Matter

When choosing her stage name and the band name, words mattered. Siouxsie became her stage name in honor of the Sioux tribe because she did not like cowboys. The Banshees was in honor of Vincent Price and his performance in the 1970 movie “Cry of the Banshee”. But Banshee has another meaning that my Irish blood loves.

In Celtic legend a banshee is a female spirit. When the spirit wails and screams it is a warning of impending death in one’s family. The wail of a banshee is a warning that something is wrong. And I would hear a Banshee’s scream.

Face to Face with Catalina at Sound Warehouse

Record stores were a unique space for me. Like our columnist Jeremy Ritch wrote about, I had my musical muses and my gatekeeper was church culture. My love of music led to staff at three record stores to befriend me. In the 80’s and the 90’s I worked in various stores in a local mall. My constant was an assistant manager at a Record Town named Doug. When they got new stuff in he would seek me out wherever I was working and tell me he put something to the side that he thought I would like.

There was a legendary record store in Joliet Illinois named Crows Nest. When I entered there, I felt like Norm in Cheers. Everyone knew my name. Like Doug, they were my guides to new and innovative music.

But in a store called Sound Warehouse in Lemont, there was Catalina. She filled a special need for me that the other two could not. I loved female artists and she was my musical guide.

Catalina was a short Cuban woman about my age with a penchant for leather and punk eye makeup. Her hair was shaved on one side and the rest of it swooped over to the other side with multiple colored highlights over her jet black hair. This was 1991 and more than a decade before it was popular to color your hair certain colors.

Songs From The Edge of the World

Catalina and I developed a fun routine as she became my musical guide. No matter what she guided me to she always tried to get me to buy a Siouxsie and the Banshees album. She would walk me to the register with whatever I had and the banter would happen.

“So we will be getting “Through the Looking Glass” with this Kate Bush album?”

“No, Catalina. Just Kate Bush.”

“We’ll have nothing to talk about on our first date if you don’t get this.”

“Hey Pat! If you buy Peepshow or even Nocturn today, you will become a better person and people will know you are special. You need this! Your life is empty without it!”

Over many months we would get into longer conversations and one day she asked me what it is about Siouxsie I did not like. The real answer was I was not socially evolved yet. I loved women in music, but I was small when it came to visuals. Boy George and Siouxsie made me uncomfortable because there was a visual blur of gender presentation. My perceptions kept me from discovery. I was not going to admit to that, so I pivoted.

“Maybe I don’t know enough about her. Why do you love her so much?”

She told me how her music changed everything for her. In a repressive Catholic household and friends that loved vapid songs where women were less, there was someone who sang of dreams and love in a different context where women were not less. Without the Banshees the punk scene would just be a bunch of Straight Edge toxic rapists in Catalina’s opinion.

She told me about new underground zines and local female punk and goth bands who would pass the mic at their shows and let women scream out their pain and grievances. She needed a space to speak and there was something new happening.

Her religious family was holding her down and she felt feminism had no space for Latina or black girls, but in this new thing that was brewing, she belonged. All women had a space there.

And then she turned it back to me.

Switch

“I want you to discover her not just because the songs are great, but I feel like you need her.”

I looked at her with confusion.

“Pat, do you know how many pretty preppy boys walk into this record store and ask a girl advice for women in the music scene?”

I shrugged.

“Zero. And yeah, that is hot, but it matters. When you see them as musicians that you respect, you see us. You see me. And in a package like yours, that is not normal. And you don’t see what’s in front of you. So much of what you listen to and love is inspired by her. She is the center of everything that you appreciate in music and I think if you gave it a chance you would see so much more.”

About this time her manager called her and a few employees over for something and I was running late for work.

Sin in My Heart

I was in Bible College when all of this was going on and had recently gone through a breakup with someone I liked a lot. The church I was going to was attending a large pro life anti abortion rally in Chicago.

This last girlfriend really shook me to the core about how my church viewed abortion and women. I was at a crossroads. I no longer felt comfortable with the position of pro life. But as a Bible College student it was made clear to me by the pastoral staff that this rally was not optional for me.

I did not drive, I was a part of a caravan in church vans that was going to the rally. As we entered the arena there were pro choice groups protesting. I just kept my eyes forward. One of the church deacons tapped me on the shoulder and told me jokingly that I had a fan.

pro choice protest

I looked beyond the barricade and Catalina was with the protestors staring right at me calling me a mother fucker and a lying piece of shit. I ran up to the barricade and said her name. She screamed at me, “Fuck you! We’re done! I don’t want to ever see your in the fucking store again!”

A crowd was developing around us. Protestors were calling me names and people from my church and others gathered around. A man on “my side” pushed Catalina hard. She stumbled back violently, caught her footing and came right back up to his face. A woman from “my side” grabbed Catalina by the hair and scratched her face while calling her a whore. I pulled her off of Catalina and the man who pushed Catalina punched me in the face.

Fights were starting to break out and police were approaching. I pulled 2 more people off of Catalina, looked for an opening through the crowd, grabbed her by the hand and led her…and me…away from the cops. I looked back at her at one point. Her face was bleeding and her expression was fury and fear all at once.

Into the Light

A few blocks later we were away from the crowd. I asked her if she was okay. She panic screamed and cried and hit me in the chest with open palms repeatedly. This was adrenaline and fear working it’s way out of her system. She wailed like a…well…you know. After a few moments she stopped and said, “Why aren’t you stopping me or yelling at me, dude?”

“Because you’re right, Catalina! I shouldn’t have been there. And I don’t know what to think about this church stuff anymore. I feel like god wants me to be a pastor but things keep happening like this and I think we’re the sinners and the monsters. Not you. And a girl I really liked just broke up with me and I am pretty sure it’s because of shit like this that I don’t even believe but I’m scared to stand up to them. And ya know what? She was right to dump me.”

She wiped blood from her face and regarded me for a moment. Her face softened as I rubbed my sore jaw.

“So the music. The respect. It’s not bullshit. This is who you are Pat. Not that guy! I know what it’s like to be repressed by church people. They want you to be something you’re not and they manipulate you like one of those dolls on strings. I’m sorry. I know what that feels like. Look, I’m going to a thing next week with some of the people I told you about with the Zines and music. You should come. I think they would like you and you could learn how to get away from those people.”

“I think I’d like that, Catalina. But me and a buddy are going to Ohio in a few days. I need to get my head clear. When I get back, I’ll come to the record store and I’d like to meet your friends and learn more. But. Are we good? Are we still friends?”

“You pulled some bitches off me and I think I know you. That other dude is a masque. I get it. We’re good.”

She paused for a moment, gently touched her scratches and asked me a question.

“So. How bad is my face?”

“She got ya pretty good, Catalina, but you’ll heal. And mine?”

“You got a hell of a bruise starting, Pat.”

We smiled and chuckled a little.

Then she said, “We should go back to the stadium, see if the coast is clear, and take your car home.”

“I came by church bus.”

“Well shit, Pat. How we getting home?”

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20 responses to “Siouxsie Sioux and the Unrelenting Banshee Challenge a Creature”

  1. Chami Avatar
    Chami

    I forgot all about Siouxsie Sioux! Thank you for this iconic reminder 🫶

    1. Pat Green Avatar

      Thank you do very much for taking the time to read and to comment. It means a lot. It is so fascinating how profound her influence is but she is not in our daily vernacular.

  2. Michelle Avatar
    Michelle

    Great article, as usual. Thank you for your honesty and openness. I’m glad you met Catalina (and all the other women in your Friday articles)!

    Don’t leave us hanging – how DID you two get home? 😜

    1. Pat Green Avatar

      I end the stories where I do for important reasons. Some parts of life stay in the little yellow diary. 😀

      But thank you for reading, commenting, and being a woman who inspired and helps others.

  3. Rhonda Page Avatar
    Rhonda Page

    I love Catalina. I don’t understand your detour through toxic religion, given this friend. Back then, I was a true believer. My perspective in my religious experience at that time was that I thought that God believed we were all equal. I projected it on to the people around me. I didn’t know their real thoughts. I did believe that they saw me as important and equal. That’s how I stayed so long. I was a social churchgoer in the late 90s, and a dropout from 1999 to 2003. Then, I had value as a wife. I had no value of my own. I was in my 30s and shown “my place.” At 40, it all came crashing down with a Beth Moore Bible study in which I learned how I was out of covenant with God. I never went back to that Bible study. I haven’t been able to be a regular churchgoer since. They lied and let me down. I’m happy to be away from the toxic motherfuckers. If I am not your peer, I am not your friend. The inequality was a shock to me. I don’t understand how men can be feminists and yet hide behind that bullshit. It was devastating.

    1. Pat Green Avatar

      “I don’t understand your detour through toxic religion, given this friend.”
      I am so glad you asked that. In every friday article where we introduce an amazing young woman who was inspired to be more we have a point of opportunity to escape. But isn’t that the cycle of abuse and manipulation. On average, it takes an abuse victim seven times to leave before staying away for good. Exiting the relationship is most unsafe time for a victim. As the abuser senses that they’re losing power, they will often act in dangerous ways to regain control over their victim. It is in my opinion that some pockets of Christianity are guilty of abuse, manipulation, and when they sense someone is leaving, they will turn up the heat to regain control.

      These women planted seeds and it took a lifetime to finally end the cycle of manipulation.

  4. Briala Avatar
    Briala

    We are seeing so much of the young Pat… and I keep seeing a theme. I know you know this now, but I keep seeing a young chap who couldn’t or wouldn’t admit he should not have been at that Bible college, trying to become a pastor.

    It’s a bit like someone struggling with their gender identity. For some people it’s a long road to accepting being transgender; for others, they just don’t know for the longest time, until something or someone explains it.

    I wish our society was a great deal better at helping people figure themselves out rather than insisting they stay in a box that just doesn’t work for them.

    1. Pat Green Avatar

      It is a fascinating analogy you draw. Since you are a Patreon, without giving away too much here, I almost broke free after Sarah. I had worked with a local college here to be able to get an associates in journalism at the end of that semester and leave Bible College and christianity behind forever. But in the wake of great tragedy they (the church) found a hard manipulation point to draw me back in and keep me there. That story will be told towards the end of the year when this space has a larger audience because I think it matters and is germane to the topic of this project. I do not get those years back. I have what is left to enjoy as best as I can and to love as best as I am able. And finding the beauty points of nostalgia while acknowledging points of trauma that helped make those points sublime is important. And as we look at the future generations, we can serve them better. Society is messy and if we can take our lessons and help the young break free of that generational trauma, that would be a good note for all of us to end our stories.

      Thank you so very much for your insights.

  5. Rhonda Page Avatar
    Rhonda Page

    Briala, thanks for that totally awesome insight. Wouldn’t it be great if we could be left alone to figure out who we are!
    It took until I was around 40 to know I had been lied to. I wish I had seen it earlier. I would’ve told them to fuck right off and burned the bridge behind me as I ran the other way. But I thought Jesus was a feminist and that I was one of the favored ones who would be rescued from my life. How delusional of me!

  6. Sue Thomas Avatar
    Sue Thomas

    You have inspired me to check out Siouxsie Sioux. Much like Catalina did.

    1. Pat Green Avatar

      I hope you enjoy the journey! I would love to learn the insights!

  7. Dùghlas Avatar
    Dùghlas

    i never heard of Siouxsie Sioux until you mentioned her. i hesitated because of her name, but i’m glad i read this piece. it alleviated my concerns over her choice of name. i will be looking up Siouxie’s music shortly, because of the list of musicians that you list being influenced by her.

    part of the reason i never heard of Siouxsie before now was a similar gatekeeper culture. secular music was verboten. i got my secular music from top 40 radio. by the time I was choosing my own music, it was the new millennium and i wasn’t looking back at the influence of those who i listened to.

    it’s never too late to fix an error by omission. so i’m starting with The Best of…

    1. Pat Green Avatar

      I think if you read Jeremy Ritch’s article about musical discovery and gatekeepers you will see that discovery is never ending and can be so very sublime. I am glad to know that something I wrote can be on the same level as some of the influenced Jeremy Ritch had in his life that literally led him to being an insider in the record promotion industry. I hope you enjoy the musical journey of her.

      1. Dùghlas Avatar

        yes, music discovery is never ending. so very happy to listen to Siouxsie alongside every other artist you mentioned in these pieces.

  8. Charles McGardy Avatar
    Charles McGardy

    Hey Pat, thanks for this article. I’ve never really heard of Siouxsie before, so now I get to go remedy that. Thank you for being so authentic and raw.

    1. Pat Green Avatar

      This fascinated me. Not a reflection on you. But out of all the artists I have written about so far, hers had the most amount of scholarly articles about her and her influence on the industry itself is profound. I wonder if this is a US vs Europe thing?

  9. Charles McGarry Avatar
    Charles McGarry

    Also my last name is misspelled. 🤣

    1. Pat Green Avatar

      For once this is not my fault! 🙂

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